Here is an interesting thread on TRF. I thought it had been deleted, but appears to be just locked now.
http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?141399
Thread: TRF vendor fees
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Yesterday, 07:17 PM #3
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$25/month is ass-tronomical for our little niche market. That makes the vendor is making 5-10 sales per month JUST for TRF access. Many of our vendors are making just around 5-20 sales/month anyway. Very few are making a living at it. CTI and Aerotech are the only large companies for whom this kind of advertising fee would make any sense. But even then... Rocketry is a small hobby and TRF is really just a message board for hobbyists. If anyone has a responsibility to maintain the costs, it's us, the hobbyists.
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I'm on another forum for one of my other hobbies (no- it's not related to trolling). This forum is much larger than TRF, with way higher traffic and larger user base. It's run by one guy, who's an enthusiast, not just an "owner". Everything on the forum is free to use, and when he needs money to cover the hosting fees, etc.. he'll put out a request for donations. Usually he gets what he needs for several months at a time. He gets this money because he's cultivated an environment where people want to donate to keep it running in the way that he wants. FYI- there are no ads on this other site either.
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I guess I'll post it here.
I want to thank everyone for their support.
Ive been here on TRF of MANY MANY years and have always loved it..
but this is the last straw.. I will NO LONGER BE A PART OF THIS FORUM
Im sorry to those that only come here.
I will be doing MANY different places such as facebook (do a search you can find me there dont forget the 23) or search mark hayes im the little green guy icon..
I have talked to a LOT of others people who supported this forum for a LONG time seems many will be doing the same..
so while this thread is still hear pass it around.. you can contact me through the regular channels (e-mail is still the best) or visit my website.. (dont forget the 23)
I guess I can only say one mre thing
"SO LONG THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH"
hope to see you at a laucnh soon!
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This is the same type of stuff that chased away Upscale CNC and plenty of others. Shame.
Today, 12:57 AM #14
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I keep promising myself I won't post here anymore and then I go and do it. I don't know that other people were given a free pass, I think it's more an oversight situation. For quite some time, I automatically paid a monthly fee (not $25) until one day the forum cancelled my payments. I was still able to post and didn't worry about it. I don't visit regularly anymore and don't know when the fee to post situation started. But earlier this week I got a message telling me that the forum couldn't find records of any recent payments. Well yeah, they cancelled them, that generally means they would stop getting them.
It's not worth $25/mo. to post. I've been far less active on the forums lately, we're doing most of our communication through our Facebook page. We'll just continue on that path for now, it's working out well so far.
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Today, 01:14 AM #16
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Fake outrage, fake news, spread by people who have always hated on RocketryForum for their own personal gain of trying to poach members to another forum.
We had multiple Vendors complain that some people were bragging they paid nothing or $5/month that the previous owner had and which we honored for years even though with PayPal fees it came out to near nothing.
The program being discussed now is not a new program, it's what the majority of Vendors were on and now people who in some cases DIDN'T PAY were asked to pay what everyone else does, they want it back to their original price of free and have sent threatening messages about wanting their free services back. When we didn't respond to threats their new tactic is spreading lies on Facebook and here about evil businesses gouging the little guy. We had other Vendors sign-up right away, it's only a fraction of these people who want everything in life free that are trying their best to cry. It's never been free to post ads on RocketryForum, since it's near inception but not surprising there are those who think everything should handed to them.
Take your fake news back to Facebook. Build your forums and Facebook groups legitimately instead of spreading lies and spamming this forum.
http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?141399
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$25/month is ass-tronomical for our little niche market. That makes the vendor is making 5-10 sales per month JUST for TRF access. Many of our vendors are making just around 5-20 sales/month anyway. Very few are making a living at it. CTI and Aerotech are the only large companies for whom this kind of advertising fee would make any sense. But even then... Rocketry is a small hobby and TRF is really just a message board for hobbyists. If anyone has a responsibility to maintain the costs, it's us, the hobbyists.
-CzTeacherMan
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Level 1 - 9/28/2014 Wildman Sport on CTI H163 White Thunder
Level 2 - 5/23/2015 Wildman 3" Darkstar CTI J400 Smoky Sam
First Mile+ & Mach+ - 9/25/2015 Wildman Punisher CTI J360 Skidmark
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I'm on another forum for one of my other hobbies (no- it's not related to trolling). This forum is much larger than TRF, with way higher traffic and larger user base. It's run by one guy, who's an enthusiast, not just an "owner". Everything on the forum is free to use, and when he needs money to cover the hosting fees, etc.. he'll put out a request for donations. Usually he gets what he needs for several months at a time. He gets this money because he's cultivated an environment where people want to donate to keep it running in the way that he wants. FYI- there are no ads on this other site either.
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L1- 4/26/2015 Madcow Cowabunga- H123SK
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I guess I'll post it here.
I want to thank everyone for their support.
Ive been here on TRF of MANY MANY years and have always loved it..
but this is the last straw.. I will NO LONGER BE A PART OF THIS FORUM
Im sorry to those that only come here.
I will be doing MANY different places such as facebook (do a search you can find me there dont forget the 23) or search mark hayes im the little green guy icon..
I have talked to a LOT of others people who supported this forum for a LONG time seems many will be doing the same..
so while this thread is still hear pass it around.. you can contact me through the regular channels (e-mail is still the best) or visit my website.. (dont forget the 23)
I guess I can only say one mre thing
"SO LONG THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH"
hope to see you at a laucnh soon!
Stickershock23.com
Stickershock23@gmail.com
"Exceed Your Visions"
This is the same type of stuff that chased away Upscale CNC and plenty of others. Shame.
Today, 12:57 AM #14
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I keep promising myself I won't post here anymore and then I go and do it. I don't know that other people were given a free pass, I think it's more an oversight situation. For quite some time, I automatically paid a monthly fee (not $25) until one day the forum cancelled my payments. I was still able to post and didn't worry about it. I don't visit regularly anymore and don't know when the fee to post situation started. But earlier this week I got a message telling me that the forum couldn't find records of any recent payments. Well yeah, they cancelled them, that generally means they would stop getting them.
It's not worth $25/mo. to post. I've been far less active on the forums lately, we're doing most of our communication through our Facebook page. We'll just continue on that path for now, it's working out well so far.
Don Magness
The Squirrel Works Model Rocketry
http://www.squirrel-works.com
Follow us on Facebook
I have seen the future and it is just like the present, only longer.
Today, 01:14 AM #16
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Fake outrage, fake news, spread by people who have always hated on RocketryForum for their own personal gain of trying to poach members to another forum.
We had multiple Vendors complain that some people were bragging they paid nothing or $5/month that the previous owner had and which we honored for years even though with PayPal fees it came out to near nothing.
The program being discussed now is not a new program, it's what the majority of Vendors were on and now people who in some cases DIDN'T PAY were asked to pay what everyone else does, they want it back to their original price of free and have sent threatening messages about wanting their free services back. When we didn't respond to threats their new tactic is spreading lies on Facebook and here about evil businesses gouging the little guy. We had other Vendors sign-up right away, it's only a fraction of these people who want everything in life free that are trying their best to cry. It's never been free to post ads on RocketryForum, since it's near inception but not surprising there are those who think everything should handed to them.
Take your fake news back to Facebook. Build your forums and Facebook groups legitimately instead of spreading lies and spamming this forum.